I was surprised at the reaction when I left, because I used to voice opinions on things - smaller things usually, like beards etc. But I guess I did hide things, even from myself - strange as that may sound.
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Are You Wearing A Mask?
by truthsearcher inare you a questioning jw?
what mask do you wear (ie an elder, regular member)?
if i came to your kingdom hall, could i tell that you were doubting?
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-12-06 WT Study (COURAGE/LOVE)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 11-12-06 wt study (october 1, 2006, pages 21-25)(courage/love).
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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Thanks for your comments Blondie!
I am getting quite sick of seeing how the writer talks to the reader in these article's, its like some sort of religious self help book, and yet we dont know who writes it and what qualifications they have. All we do know is it becomes approved by the GB, who as a group continue to show they blind the minds of their followers. They simply demand obedience, and guilt people into complying.
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Got my KN # 37 on Sunday
by cyberdyne systems 101 ini was doing some work on my car, when this dub turns up to give me the tract.
he makes his presentation in a way that doesnt promote discussion.
unfortunately i feel slightly frustrated that i didnt ask him a few questions, ok he wouldnt have listened or would have claimed to go away and research it, but still i felt i missed a golden opportunity to give a 'witness' back.
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I was doing some work on my car, when this Dub turns up to give me the tract. He makes his presentation in a way that doesnt promote discussion. Unfortunately I feel slightly frustrated that i didnt ask him a few questions, ok he wouldnt have listened or would have claimed to go away and research it, but still I felt i missed a golden opportunity to give a 'witness' back. How has anyone else got on with it?
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My sister is getting married on Saturday (dub wedding)
by cyberdyne systems 101 inthe wedding has arrived, i've been maintaining a stance of not attending, but this last week had a slight change of heart and thought i might attend afterall.
i thought it would be a good chance to hold my head up and show i've got a life.
after some further thought and talking to my sister, i've decided to not attend.
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The wedding has come and gone and...hey I feel quite ok about it. I've asked my parents how it went and so on, I guess i've accepted things how they are right now.
Is this part of moving on I wonder?
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What are the Elders thinking? What are JW's thinking?
by Fisherman inthere was a time when most jw's solemly believed that the "end" was comming in their life time, that the preaching work was a life saving work and the most important work on earth and that the wts was god's organization, god's agency, the only channel of communication on earth.
i think that most jws today somewhat still vagely believe that now but i wonder, what is going on in the minds and hearts of the jws today?
what is everyone thinking?
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Although no longer a witness, I am of the oppinion that its a lot easier to do and promote something you believe in. My own experience is that as a child I believed to the extent you can at that age, the older i got the less I saw it as a reality, and really the control technique's held me in a lot longer than where my mind was. I think that those in reinforce their belief's and deny themselves any doubts, and simply 'want' the organisation to be right. Be interested to hear from current JW's.
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WTS is a cult
by OnTheWayOut inwts is a cult.
this excerpt is from steven hassans book.
he says that there are four components.
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Thanks for posting this OTWO. One JW that i've been trying to talk to, certainly has this 'wall' effect whenever I bring something up that deviates from WTS thinking. Its amazing to see it happen, and some what sobering to realise ones thinking ability is so comprimised. Imagine how different things would be if they didnt employ these techniques.
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What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?
by gordon d inwhat scripture will probably never be read in the kh or quoted in the watchtower?
for obvious reasons!
i'll start with honesty's contribution: .
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I think this topic deserves to go in the best of area!
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What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?
by gordon d inwhat scripture will probably never be read in the kh or quoted in the watchtower?
for obvious reasons!
i'll start with honesty's contribution: .
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I've started to see some Bible verses in a different light since leaving the dubs, one example:
ECCLESIASTES 12:12
As regards anything besides these, my son, take a warning: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion [to them] is wearisome to the flesh.
I now see this applies to the Witnoids, not as they apply it to all other literature - of which they are happy to quote in their publications!
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Have you been love bombed or practiced this technique?
by truthsearcher inwhat has been your experience with love bombing (that is the practice of showering attention upon newcomers until they are part of the org)?
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Truthsearcher wrote:
In what way are JWs instructed to love bomb? Can you give examples.
It was given at meetings, talks from the platform. We were told that as the true religion we had the mark of love that no other faith had. And that we should welcome any interested/new ones that attended. We were to try and arrange to bring them to the hall ourselves, to invite them to social gatherings or our homes etc. This was a theme that was discussed frequently over the years. As usual its the R & F that put these suggestions into practice, because it seems the right thing to do. In reality the idea of being welcoming new people is a great idea, but do we need to be told to do it, in order to fulfill a particular scripture? Only to let it fade once the person is in becuae we didnt choose them as close friends, then how genuine was it really? CS 101
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My sister is getting married on Saturday (dub wedding)
by cyberdyne systems 101 inthe wedding has arrived, i've been maintaining a stance of not attending, but this last week had a slight change of heart and thought i might attend afterall.
i thought it would be a good chance to hold my head up and show i've got a life.
after some further thought and talking to my sister, i've decided to not attend.
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Thanks Gill, I dont really see it as they are ruling my life, i've made a choice not to attend the ceremony and it feels good to be the one making that choice, sure its because of the dub mindset that as a family member i'm not invited to the reception, where as the grooms 'worldly' relatives are, but I feel liberated to be beyond that mindset myself, whilst remembering what it was like to be in it. Also my sister and me are both ok with it, under those current circumstances, which I recon is a better way to show i'm not bitter and evil as someone who is an ex jw. Maybe it will make her and my jw mother think about things?
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